The more I play ..er pose figure for professional reasons, the more I realize the 25th Anniversary figures can't stand in some of the same ways the original format figures can. Right now, Valor vs Venom figure is outdoing 25th without a display stand. I guess you could say the 25th are pretty but don't play as well as the old school. Oops, I missed a good joke opportunity with jointed Sigma Six Timber out posing non jointed 25th anniversary Timber. Maybe next time.